Calipers and other parts for VTR

[griffo]

Ive got a set of CBR 600 front calipers that Ive been told are superior to the stock calipers but need a slight mod ( a bit ground out to fit ) if anyone's interested Id take 50 for the pair plus postage , also a set of black clip on bars brand new 30 plus postage

[vtrstormer]

That's real cheap mate for both items

[griffo]

Ive also got a near new set of MCCTs 60 plus postage and a rear wheel with discs 70 plus freight and have 2 seats as well 40 each and a set of carbs for 100 .

[Kev W]

Hey Mate have you still got the carbs?
If so any idea what postage would be to Gold Coast Qld.
I need a diaphram for one of mine, but if I get stuck Yours will get mine sorted till I fix my carbs and put them back on eventually

Thanks
Kev

[vtrstormer]

Kev I also have a set of spare carbs if you get stuck...could let them go cheapish...

[griffo]

Hi Kev its Mark here we chatted on Facebook about the carbs Ill catch up with you I have 3 sets .

[Kev W]

Apr 6, 2017 17:36:10 GMT 10 vtrstormer said:

Kev I also have a set of spare carbs if you get stuck...could let them go cheapish...

Thanks John already organised some of mark via facebook.
We are gonna meet up tomorrow, he is heading for a ride with a mate and I will charge out on mine and meet them and have breaky out there.

[vtrstormer]

All good mate. Mark said you guys were meeting up so hope that fixes the issue you're having

[Kev W]

Apr 8, 2017 22:54:59 GMT 10 vtrstormer said:

All good mate. Mark said you guys were meeting up so hope that fixes the issue you're having

Time will tell lol.
I may have found a much cheaper source for the Diaphragms too, but will know more during the week. If so I will order them so I have spare new ones and when I come across another pair of cheap carbs I will put together a fully rebuilt set for myself and do another set with new Diaphragms for anyone else that may need a rebuilt set of carbs. 

[vtrstormer]

Apr 9, 2017 6:10:34 GMT 10 Kev W said:

Apr 8, 2017 22:54:59 GMT 10 vtrstormer said:

All good mate. Mark said you guys were meeting up so hope that fixes the issue you're having

Time will tell lol.
I may have found a much cheaper source for the Diaphragms too, but will know more during the week. If so I will order them so I have spare new ones and when I come across another pair of cheap carbs I will put together a fully rebuilt set for myself and do another set with new Diaphragms for anyone else that may need a rebuilt set of carbs. 

Can I ask where you have found these cheaper diaphragms. I currently have a few sets of carbs here and wouldn't mind rebuilding one of them to have ready to go when needed...

[vtrstormer]

Hey Kev

The other weekend when you said my bike was rich was it more under hard throttle or in cruising state? Just trying to work out if it's needle or main keys causing it. The bike runs very nice and is responsive so I'm not that keen to start guessing.
Thanks

[Kev W]

Apr 9, 2017 7:05:15 GMT 10 vtrstormer said:

Apr 9, 2017 6:10:34 GMT 10 Kev W said:

Time will tell lol.
I may have found a much cheaper source for the Diaphragms too, but will know more during the week. If so I will order them so I have spare new ones and when I come across another pair of cheap carbs I will put together a fully rebuilt set for myself and do another set with new Diaphragms for anyone else that may need a rebuilt set of carbs. 

Can I ask where you have found these cheaper diaphragms. I currently have a few sets of carbs here and wouldn't mind rebuilding one of them to have ready to go when needed...

I will pass on details when I confirm it this week mate, Its through my mate Dan. He has a Dyno guy he uses for his R6 and was telling him about it and he said last time he got them they were around the $90 mark each instead of over $200 each. As soon as I know for certain I will let you know John.

[binny]

Oooo tempted for the calipers. You have some of these on yours don't you John?
I cooked my brand new pads and rotors at Queensland Raceway a couple of years ago and they have never been the same since. It would be nice to have a firmer lever. Do they still work ok with the standard Master Cylinder?

[vtrstormer]

The 600f4i calipers are the ducks nuts. They run really well with stock M.C. But it's another step up with a matched M.C. I have 600f4i calipers matched M.C. And braided lines and it's an awesome braking machine when I ride fast enough to take full advantage

[Kev W]

Carbs I got from Mark have been stripped and cleaned and everything checked checked jet sizes etc (really good clean standard carb set). Have pulled my carbs off and hmmm no restricters they have been cut out. Strip carbs to bits, find 1 diaphragm with a pinhole. And the carbs have been jetted ....thats a surprise but may explain why a few other things have been done the way they are.
So gonna use good diapragms and put original carbs back on at some point in next day or so.
Removing the pair system too and a couple of other mods at same time between jobs

[vtrstormer]

What jet sizes are they running? The pinhole will obviously be the main issue but the jets may have something to do with it as well. Previous owner may have tried to fix it by installing bigger jets etc. just something to think about that's all

[Kev W]

Up until about 2 weeks ago it ran smooth and real strong, and I was never concerned by economy as I regularly average 230-240k a tank and have had 280k on a run with wife on back. I wouldn't think the jets were done to cover up a diaphragm issue as until a fortnight ago it has been brilliant. It has 48 idle and 190 mains both carbs.
I have taken off the water heating from base of carbs too, (Colder Mixture, Denser Air, More Power.)
Pair System now gone too.
Once its all back together I will double check TPS again, even though I havn't disturbed it since I set it this time last year, then recheck carb balance

[binny]

Hey Mark I'll take those calipers if you still have them.
Thanks for the info John.

[griffo]

Yeah I have them mate , bear in mind they need a small amount ground out for the mounting bolt to fit ( apparently ) Ill send you a message on here and we can arrange a time to meet up , maybe a ride out to Somerset or something.

[kenmoore]

My experience with the rear carb is to have a bigger jet than the front.

My set up is standard idles ( Effed if I know what that is , but they work )for an 05 and 180 Front and 182 rear Dyno Jet Main, no holes drilled in the slides The theory is that as the rear runs hotter it needs more fuel.

I must say that what works for me may nort work for you so play at risk.

My belief is that what feels good to you with these carbs is the best route. Opinions abound about what is the right set up , however I am with the "If It Feels Right " brigade , run with it.

One of the unique things about the VTR is the carbs and as much as they are a pain in the arse, if you get them right they are a joy!

Let the games begin!

I like the KISS principle and prefer not to overcomplicate the carbs, the very odd fart is acceptable.

P.S I took my carbs off soooooo many times I had to buy new inlet rubbers and clamps getting this done.

[Kev W]

Its all back together and on fire up immediately sounds and feels the way it was before the problem. The difference in sound and feel is chalk and cheese.
I will head out for a ride a bit later today to get some parts from Repco for a job I have here so will see for certain if I am right then.
While I was doing the carbs as I said I removed the pair system, the carb water heating circuit has been bypassed for cooler mixture, Modified throttle tube from 32mm to 37mm for quicker response and less travel. While there soaked cables in Kero overnight and re lubricated with anti-sieze grease.

[Kev W]

The test ride this morning was a success, Thanks griffo I used the diaphragms from the carbs I got from you with my needles etc (my carbs were cleaner inside and kept my jetting etc) and the bike is back to being mental again........ Very very happy here.
Plus the mods I did at same time have made it more fun too

[griffo]

Great to hear Kev

[kenmoore]

Hey Kev,

My experience when I removed/ bypassed the water pipes from the carbs was not pleasant.

I put them back on.

There is a lot of info on the net as to why they should be retained.

Worth a look.

[Kev W]

Apr 13, 2017 16:01:53 GMT 10 griffo said:

Great to hear Kev

Bike is going awesome again

[Kev W]

Apr 13, 2017 19:57:13 GMT 10 kenmoore said:

Hey Kev,

My experience when I removed/ bypassed the water pipes from the carbs was not pleasant.

I put them back on.

There is a lot of info on the net as to why they should be retained.

Worth a look.

Thanks for the comment advice kenmore 
But I will not at this stage be putting them back. Too many years working with performance engines and carbs has taught me to reduce all heat at carbs possible.

[binny]

It was nice to meet you today Griffo and thanks for the calipers.
I'll order some braided lines and do them at the same time.

[griffo]

Apr 15, 2017 9:30:10 GMT 10 binny said:

It was nice to meet you today Griffo and thanks for the calipers.
I'll order some braided lines and do them at the same time.

Yep good to meet you too mate , we'll catch up for a longer ride and more chat soon

[sammynb]

Hey griffo, would you still have a seat for sale?
Would I be pushing it asking if you could post it to Sydney please?

[griffo]

May 22, 2017 20:56:16 GMT 10 sammynb said:

Hey griffo, would you still have a seat for sale?
Would I be pushing it asking if you could post it to Sydney please?

I do have a seat mate here's a picture of it it's got a very small mark on it , the little indentation halfway downs just where something was sitting on it , Ill find out what the postage would be to Sydney and let you know .

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