Seanus
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Post by Seanus on May 2, 2012 18:52:14 GMT 10
You can certainly see that. I reckon Lorenzo uses the most!
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Post by nicho72 on May 2, 2012 21:39:23 GMT 10
im sorry but there was passing in motogp - shame it only lasted for around 6 to 7 laps though - brought back memories of the old 500;s for awhile anway
I think spies is suffering a major case of lack of confidence- stems from his offs in Qatar
i only hope stoner's arm pump doesnt become a factor in this years results , i want him and lorenzo fighting every round and the title going down to the last round - if not hope stoner clinches it again at PI. shame about jack miller and arthur sissis in moto3 , both look promising ,
what was the go with ianonne in moto2 ?? total role reversal from qatar
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2012 14:03:37 GMT 10
Bucket racing.....err....I mean MOTO3 sure will loose what ever luster it has for the spectator but that's bureaucracy at work I suppose. Stoner had Lorenzo's length measured all the way I reckon. Lorenzo was setting him up for a pass in the last three laps thinking Stoner was at the limit. Great tactical ride by Stoner and he must have squeezed some tennis balls after the previous race.
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Post by colinlinz on May 3, 2012 15:44:53 GMT 10
He is still having issues with the arm pump. With luck he will get it sorted.
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Post by smokey on May 3, 2012 17:46:13 GMT 10
Enjoy watching Stoner while he's here, the current rumor is he'll retire at the end of the season, I think he'll do at least one more year after this one.
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Post by snowcone on May 4, 2012 10:44:06 GMT 10
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Post by spitfire on May 4, 2012 15:39:13 GMT 10
The 1st 2 links say page cannot be found
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Post by colinlinz on May 5, 2012 10:43:02 GMT 10
He has given every indication that he has at least thought about doing it sooner rather than later. He has been pretty emphatic that he has no desire to race in motogp if it continues down its current philosophy of development.
He is looking good so far this weekend. It looks like Spies has recovered his mojo too. Ducati went well in wet conditions, but it is still Hayden that is the faster rider, both wet and dry.
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Post by colinlinz on May 6, 2012 9:58:49 GMT 10
Stoner looked strong right through qualifying, so he might be in for a good race. Spies has continued his better form from the previous practice sessions. Crutchlow is still going well. There really isn't much in it between Stoner, Pedrosa, and Crutchlow. Lorenzo will be amongst them in the race no doubt. Rossi sounds happier. He is closer in time to the front guys and he has beaten Hayden in qualifying. That said, Barbera was faster on the Pramac Ducati.
It is reasonably tight at the pointy end, so we should be in for a decent race.
1. Casey Stoner AUS Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 37.188s 2. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 37.201s 3. Cal Crutchlow GBR Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1) 1m 37.289s 4. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Yamaha Factory Racing (YZR-M1) 1m 37.466s 5. Ben Spies USA Yamaha Factory Racing (YZR-M1) 1m 37.723s 6. Alvaro Bautista ESP San Carlo Honda Gresini (RC213V) 1m 37.917s 7. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1) 1m 37.943s 8. Hector Barbera ESP Pramac Racing (GP12) 1m 38.006s 9. Valentino Rossi ITA Ducati Team (GP12) 1m 38.059s 10. Nicky Hayden USA Ducati Team (GP12) 1m 38.253s 11. Stefan Bradl GER LCR Honda MotoGP (RC213V) 1m 38.265s 12. Aleix Espargaro ESP Power Electronics Aspar (ART CRT) 1m 39.353s 13. Karel Abraham CZE Cardion AB Motoracing (GP12) 1m 39.398s 14. Randy De Puniet FRA Power Electronics Aspar (ART CRT) 1m 39.586s 15. Yonny Hernandez COL Avintia Blusens (FTR-Kawasaki CRT) 1m 40.029s 16. Michele Pirro ITA San Carlo Honda Gresini (FTR-Honda CRT) 1m 40.225s 17. Mattia Pasini ITA Speed Master (ART CRT) 1m 40.387s 18. Colin Edwards USA NGM Forward Racing (Suter-BMW CRT) 1m 40.964s 19. James Ellison GBR Paul Bird Motorsport (ART CRT) 1m 41.394s 20. Danilo Petrucci ITA Came IodaRacing (Ioda-Aprilia CRT) 1m 41.486s 21. Ivan Silva ESP Avintia Blusens (FTR-Kawasaki CRT) 1m 41.490s
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Post by rowanb on May 6, 2012 12:28:03 GMT 10
As much as i want Stoner to win im keen to see Crutchlow put hiy SBK talents to good use
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Post by paulbassett on May 6, 2012 13:28:25 GMT 10
Yes and lets hope Ben Spies puts on a better show this time.
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Post by snowcone on May 7, 2012 9:16:12 GMT 10
The Master at work again, holding off the hopefuls Great result for Casey
On another note, the USA forums fir some time have been promoting Spies as the great white hope, but he seems to have no race pace, and always goes back through the field. A bit over-rated considering the machine he is given - maybe should be back at superbikes
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Post by colinlinz on May 7, 2012 9:48:54 GMT 10
It wasn't such an exiting race, but it is amazing watching those guys push so hard and not make mistakes. I think that is the difference between motogp and moto2. In moto2 the bikes performance can easily be reached. With only a 130hp, and basically standard road engines the bikes are more like big cuddly panda's, and not like the fire breathing dragons of motogp. In motogp, the bikes can do amazingly fast times, the limit is the riders ability to get his shit together on the day.
One telling comment from Stoner was that he was still having chattering problems. He said he tried a number of maps during the race to help with the problem, but nothing worked, and then later in the race, he found a way to ride around the problem. This is definitely one of his biggest strengths. He can change the way he rides to suit the needs of the bike. He has preferences, but he seems to be able to adapt to circumstances better than most.
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Post by shayne on May 9, 2012 8:42:11 GMT 10
Agreed - Stoner can polish a turd better than most. At the moment though the Honda is a great package, so that makes him very hard to beat. Perhaps the Yamaha is just as good, but Lorenzo does not have the edge that Stoner does when the bike is not perfect.
Lorenzo rides very smoothly, always it seems to me. Perhaps this is his weakness. When his bike needs to be on the edge to win, he is not taking it there, and Stoner does.
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Post by colinlinz on May 9, 2012 9:23:27 GMT 10
I think yamaha might be the pick of them though. There just seems to be more yamaha's at the pointy end, even the non factory ones are doing well.
I think the rear moving the way it is on Stoners bike is down to the chatter. He is saying the rear chatter is very strange. It is a low frequency chatter, rather than the normal higher frequency type, and is difficult to understand.
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Post by snowcone on May 10, 2012 9:22:36 GMT 10
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Post by theblueracer on May 10, 2012 23:49:06 GMT 10
That's great! Hopefully he does well & impresses the right people.
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Post by bowler on May 11, 2012 15:46:10 GMT 10
Link doesnt work for me.
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Post by bluestorm04 on May 11, 2012 16:53:51 GMT 10
+ 1
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Post by snowcone on May 11, 2012 16:57:52 GMT 10
Linky fixed now
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Post by bowler on May 12, 2012 22:17:52 GMT 10
Thanks Gary
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2012 8:47:14 GMT 10
Looks like its official, Stoner retires at the end of this season. It will a while before we are cheering on another Aussie to Podium finishes in MOTOGP I think
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Post by colinlinz on May 18, 2012 9:58:52 GMT 10
Yep. It is "So long, and thanks for the fish." for Stoner. You could hear that it has been on his mind over recent times. He hasn't been happy with the direction of the sport, the prospect of racing neutered bikes has no interest for him. He has a number of strong interests outside of racing, so all in all, it was a sensible decision for him. He would have a nice nest egg, and he has achieved his racing goals. As much as I love motorcycles, life is just so much more than bikes and racing. I can completely understand wanting to enjoy other aspects of his life while he can.
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Post by shayne on May 18, 2012 10:11:27 GMT 10
No surprises for me either. Anything else he does will be a step back from prototype racing, and he doesn't strike me as someone that will ride other stuff for the sake of it, whether he is winning or not.
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Post by nitros on May 18, 2012 10:28:21 GMT 10
There are rumours of him going to 4 wheels and racing V8 touring cars.
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Post by colinlinz on May 18, 2012 12:26:09 GMT 10
He has done some testing in them, and he may well do it for a bit of fun. He is also very keen on fishing and skiing.
It is going to be a blow to GP. He may not be the showman that Rossi is, but he has been a fierce competitor and a real racer. He always goes out to try and win. The bike might not be doing what he wants it to do, but he still pushes it hard. I think Lorenzo might be a lonely racer next year. There is no one else that is consistently as fast.
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Post by trezza on May 18, 2012 14:17:23 GMT 10
I hope Crutchlow steps up to the plate, and surely Spies needs to find some pace soon...
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Post by colinlinz on May 18, 2012 14:50:40 GMT 10
Pedrosa is pretty close to Stoner and Lorenzo, but he just seems to be missing that last little bit that they have. Crutchlow looks pretty impressive so far this year, with some luck he will find a little more pace and continue his form. None of these guys are mugs, they are all very good racers and sports people. To be consistently fast takes a lot of talent, fitness, luck, and a similarly endowed team of people behind you. If all the planets align, and with some luck, we might get a couple more riders being able to make that step up.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2012 17:09:26 GMT 10
I wouldn't be surprised to hear Rossi making a similar statement soon. How quickly things change. Less than 12 months ago it was getting pretty crowded at the pointy end of MOTOGP and now it looks like Lorenzo will be waving his backside at any rider who can manage to get close enough. Lorenzo has always had what it takes but I think he can thank Stoner for bringing out the best in him.
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Post by colinlinz on May 18, 2012 17:31:59 GMT 10
Rossi made a statement at the same press conference that he will be staying in motogp for at least two more years. But then Stoner said at the last round that he wasn't thinking about retirement
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