speirsy
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Post by speirsy on May 5, 2012 12:10:28 GMT 10
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erno
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Post by erno on May 5, 2012 12:49:41 GMT 10
Go for it,but make sure they fit first  |
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Post by colinlinz on May 5, 2012 14:36:41 GMT 10
Braided lines won't do much. I tried them first, but the feel still wasn't there. I ended up swapping callipers and master cylinder. I used CBR600 units and they made a very worthwhile change.
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vtrstormer
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Post by vtrstormer on Jun 11, 2014 23:54:17 GMT 10
Braided lines won't do much. I tried them first, but the feel still wasn't there. I ended up swapping callipers and master cylinder. I used CBR600 units and they made a very worthwhile change. I have cbr600f4i calipers to go on but do I need to change out the master cylinder to be fully worth it? |
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Post by colinlinz on Jun 25, 2014 11:18:23 GMT 10
I think the cbr master cylinder gives better feel.
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Post by outrigger on Jun 25, 2014 21:40:16 GMT 10
I have cbr600f4i calipers to go on but do I need to change out the master cylinder to be fully worth it? with those calipers you need to shave about 2mm off the outer cylinder wall to clear the caliper mount bracket. attach caliper by the upper mount and let the lower just rest and you will see where it needs extra clearance |
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Post by snowcone on Jun 27, 2014 14:10:23 GMT 10
The existing master cylinder will work fine.
There appears to be a little more lever travel with this set up so if you don't like it then go and get a m/c, but for effectivenes it will work quite well and is one of the best mods you can do to the Storm
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vtrstormer
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Post by vtrstormer on Jun 27, 2014 17:29:44 GMT 10
Yeah I have the calipers all sorted and painted up ready to go on but was just asking about the M/c as I would do it all at the same time if needed. So throw some new pads in and install.
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binny
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Post by binny on Jun 27, 2014 19:32:20 GMT 10
My problem with storms has always been the lever travel. I always found the stopping power adequate even on the track but the amount of lever travel is always a worry. Especially when I used to swap bikes with my brothers on their fireblade or gixxers and I'd nearly put myself over the handlebars the first time I braked.
I always thought a bigger bore master cylinder would be a more worthwhile upgrade than the calipers. I've never got around to doing though, sigh.
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bowler
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Post by bowler on Jun 29, 2014 9:52:03 GMT 10
My problem with storms has always been the lever travel. I always found the stopping power adequate even on the track but the amount of lever travel is always a worry. Especially when I used to swap bikes with my brothers on their fireblade or gixxers and I'd nearly put myself over the handlebars the first time I braked. I always thought a bigger bore master cylinder would be a more worthwhile upgrade than the calipers. I've never got around to doing though, sigh. I felt exactly the same about the storm's brakes , having come from a Suzuki. The lever would trap my fingers against the bars when I braked if I didn't use all 4 fingers. When the storm had a Brembo m/c fitted , it was much better. I picked up some 6 pot gixxer calipers and put braided lines on when I fitted them - brakes were now normal ! Graham |
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Post by kenmoore on Jun 29, 2014 12:12:50 GMT 10
I have CBR600 F4i calipers as well as braded lines and adjustable levers.
Initially I found the lever travel excessive but once I adjusted the span on the lever all was good.
Once I was mucking around and adjusted the lever to the closest position in relation to the clip on and had almost no brake.
Adjusted to the middle position and all was well again. Scared the shit out of me!
Now I definitely don't feel the need for a different Master Cylinder and has been set up like this for over a year and the brakes are no longer lacking and have plenty of feel and power using the standard master cylinder.
I have other bikes to compare it to and rate the caliper upgrade as a very worthy mod.
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Post by colinlinz on Jun 29, 2014 17:14:57 GMT 10
With the CBR M/C on, there are no problems with lever travel. I felt the same with the standard M/C, there was just too much travel. Feel is a different thing, what feels good to one person, may not feel as good to another. My thoughts were that the CBR M/C felt better. I guess that stands to reason, as the ratio's are designed as pairs.
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Post by kenmoore on Jun 29, 2014 19:32:41 GMT 10
True that, however we are all different and my current set up suits me.
I would rather do something else like a USD swap with better brakes than spend any more time or money on my brakes.
I am saving like mad at the mo to do it.
The CBR calipers by themselves are a massive improvement EH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Grinding them to fit was a major pain.
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Post by nzspokes on Jun 30, 2014 18:54:45 GMT 10
Funny thing is I like the stock brakes. Plenty of power and feel. Track day I have no problem with them.
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Post by kenmoore on Jun 30, 2014 19:23:48 GMT 10
Maybe they have already been swapped by previous owner.
How many pins hold your pads in?
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Post by nzspokes on Jun 30, 2014 19:30:52 GMT 10
Maybe they have already been swapped by previous owner. How many pins hold your pads in? They are stock. Well to be fair they are Hornet 900 ones. Which are the same as vtr ones. When I got it the calipers were full of crap. I got the bike on a monday and had a track day on the Saturday. Calipers got robbed of my Hornet. Cleaned out the old ones later and put them on the hornet. They are identical. Its not even got braided lines. But I like a softer lever with more feel. I use it for trail braking. But held up fine on turn 1 at Hampton downs where you need to slow from 200 ish to 100 quickly. |
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