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Post by sundaystorm on Apr 17, 2013 19:19:02 GMT 10
trying a new battery as my old battery lost its power, only had one start init then dies. trying the new motobatt battery in the storm plenty of power & cheap $68.00 to my door through batteries direct.battery cost $49.88 freight & insurance $18.00 . next day service . now have a happy bike & rider. p.s. last battery I got cost me $220.00 lasted just under 5 years I can get 3 x motobatt batterys & still be in front. ;D
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Post by charlymammoth on Apr 17, 2013 23:21:54 GMT 10
trying a new battery as my old battery lost its power, only had one start init then dies. trying the new motobatt battery in the storm plenty of power & cheap $68.00 to my door through batteries direct.battery cost $49.88 freight & insurance $18.00 . next day service . now have a happy bike & rider. p.s. last battery I got cost me $220.00 lasted just under 5 years I can get 3 x motobatt batterys & still be in front. ;D I bought my cycle brand new in may 08 and the battery is in great shape , sometimes oem stuff is awesome , and now that i have said that it wont start tomorrow morning
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Post by billzilla on Apr 18, 2013 7:12:40 GMT 10
My original battery lasted about six years though was getting pretty sad towards the end. I've got a Shorai lithium unit in it now and am very happy with it.
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Post by kyp on Apr 18, 2013 10:09:28 GMT 10
My original battery lasted about six years though was getting pretty sad towards the end. I've got a Shorai lithium unit in it now and am very happy with it. I've got Shorai as well. This is my second bike with Shorai. Very happy with it
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Post by carlos8 on Apr 18, 2013 16:55:28 GMT 10
Motobatt in mine for 12000 km all good
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Post by Von Nudenut on Apr 19, 2013 16:48:57 GMT 10
A few guys on another forum have had a rough trot with Motobatt batteries. It seems if you don't run the bike regularly the battery will shite itself (tests as an open circuit). If you do strike trouble i'd be interested to hear about it
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Post by sundaystorm on Apr 19, 2013 18:21:52 GMT 10
so far so good early days with the battery , it cranks the motor over well at this point keep you posted .
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Post by colinlinz on Apr 21, 2013 13:32:55 GMT 10
Batteries vary a bit, even just in lead acid form. The basic lead acid battery will perform reasonably well if use regularly, but they don't like sitting around, and have a higher self discharge. Calcium batteries are a lead acid battery with a plate grid that has a small amount of calcium added to the alloy. This changes their internal resistance and they don't gas as much. This means they need less topping up. They also have a lower self discharge, which means they can sit for a lot longer before going flat. AGM and Gel batteries are maintenance free and have the lowest self discharge rate, therefor they can sit for very long periods without loosing significant charge. I'm not that well versed on lithium batteries, and have never used them in my bike. If they are as good as the ones in my lithium ion battery tools, then they will be pretty good.
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Post by Mattjin on Apr 23, 2013 20:27:47 GMT 10
I have had a couple of circuit race cars come through work recently with Lithium batteries in them.
One in a high comp Honda Integra that would only drop 0.5V over its static votage while cranking! VERY impressive. Most cars will dip a number of volts while cranking.
The other one, a Skyline GTR, spent a couple of hours on the dyno and then half a day at the track before coming to a stop. Found nobody had connected the alternator when putting the motor back in (no charge light). It effectively ran the ECU, injectors, coils, 4WD system, fuel pumps, and started the car for around 4 hours of use with no charging!
I have never seen any other type of automotive batteries do this before. Not counting that these batteries were very light too.
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Post by phillstorm on May 2, 2013 21:44:49 GMT 10
I stick with Yuasa and charger if I am not riding weekly cause I hate having a weak battery and big twins need good cranking power. Also don't want to change them every year or 2. Tried a tiny lithium in the R1 tracky with a bit of extra compression. Where 8 cell ones so should have worked. 1st one failed and warranty one lasted 6 months. Tried to charge the good one in the VTR but it had no chance of starting a twin. They do look good on the multi meter and don't lose charge like norm batteries but I am sure they also don't have the cranking power of big batteries and they don't like the cold
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Post by duck on May 3, 2013 18:56:49 GMT 10
Just got a motobatt yesterday... $50 from a battery place in peakhurst, nsw and worth the 1/2 hour drive to pick it up at that price. They told me to invest in a maintenance charger and it should be ok for 5 years plus.
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Post by phillstorm on May 11, 2013 19:48:11 GMT 10
That's the place I get my Yuasa's from. The gell type one was cheap and they sent it quick and easy. The acid one for the duc was a bit dearer so I drove down. Amazing range of gagetry they sell. I had to ask for 10 minutes extra time to check the stuff out. everything and more to do with all types of batteries and chargers. Had no idea what the rest was. Asked them about not using big chargers and they confirmed the little bike batteries will cook with more than not much amps
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Post by shayne on May 13, 2013 12:10:48 GMT 10
Good battery chargers will allow for different battery types and size, to allow for small batteries or gel etc. Old style chargers designed for car batteries can't do this. CTEK's and so on are the go.
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Post by ctg on Apr 26, 2014 12:39:43 GMT 10
Bought a Lithium battery from www.batteriesdirect.com.au and never regretted it. Don't need a trickle charger any more and starts great every time. 5 times lighter, 3 times cca. 10 yrs lifespan ( stated, but not yet prooven ).
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Post by vtrstormer on May 22, 2014 7:27:23 GMT 10
Bought a Lithium battery from www.batteriesdirect.com.au and never regretted it. Don't need a trickle charger any more and starts great every time. 5 times lighter, 3 times cca. 10 yrs lifespan ( stated, but not yet prooven ). I was looking into these some time ago, can I ask how much you paid for this unit?
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Post by ctg on May 25, 2014 13:09:33 GMT 10
was $278 delivered. Been an excellent choice.
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Post by vtrstormer on May 28, 2014 6:15:49 GMT 10
was $278 delivered. Been an excellent choice. That's expensive but when your see it's life span and cca I guess it's worth it...
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Post by macca on May 28, 2015 19:15:09 GMT 10
I only get time to ride my bike about 3hrs per month. My battery doesn't seem capable of starting my bike more than a few times now before going totally flat so I've just ordered the following : SSB High Performance Lithium(LH12-BS) $280 delivered from batteries direct.
Hopefully it is actually the battery and nothing else!
I shall report back on its performance!
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Post by vtrstormer on May 31, 2015 6:53:20 GMT 10
Macca even buying a top notch battery only riding it that much every month you will find it will go flat. Your best bet is to buy a trickle charger that can stay connected to the bike and won't over charge the battery in between rides. I have one and they are great and they only cost $50 delivered.
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Post by macca on May 31, 2015 18:22:57 GMT 10
Hey mate, I installed the new battery and so far so good. In doing so I also discovered that the muppet that owned the bike before me had the wrong battery in there! A much lower capacity 8Ah job with only 135 CCA! He told me that he put a new battery and chain on the bike before selling it and I've had to replace both items - the chain was so cheap and loose it was dangerous. The new battery I have is a LiPo and has a shelf life of 12 months without losing charge. It also turns the engine over super easy ?
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Post by macca on May 31, 2015 18:23:32 GMT 10
I should add that the new battery has 300 CCA!
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Post by vtrstormer on May 31, 2015 20:14:50 GMT 10
I should add that the new battery has 300 CCA! Enough to crank two storms and run a fridge.....lol
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Post by calais on Oct 5, 2017 11:48:25 GMT 10
Hello Battery Gurus. I have a 2005 VTR1000F and keen to confirm the battery code. Can any one help? Lead acid and lithium equivalent.
Edit: YTZ12S and Lithium LFP14H-BS... Can anyone recommend the SSB brand? eBay pricing approximately $175 delivered.
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Post by binny on Oct 5, 2017 17:58:08 GMT 10
I've had that ssb lithium for a couple of years now and it's been great. The old battery wouldn't crank it after more than a week. The lithium one still does it easy after 6 or more weeks and cranks it way faster than before. It's great for me because I don't ride it much and there aren't any power points where I keep the bike.
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Post by calais on Oct 5, 2017 19:15:44 GMT 10
I've had that ssb lithium for a couple of years now and it's been great. The old battery wouldn't crank it after more than a week. The lithium one still does it easy after 6 or more weeks and cranks it way faster than before. It's great for me because I don't ride it much and there aren't any power points where I keep the bike. Thanks for the reply and confidence regarding brand. The bike had a SSB installed when I purchased but it only lasted 12 months in my hands, not sure when this was fitted though so can't be sure how good it really was. The bike has little use and has been stored over winter and the battery has no life. Tried jumping it and charging but shorts the charger fuse and CTEX trickle charger doesn't acknowledge it when connected. Is there any advice on CTEX charges regarding maintenance charging for a lithium. I have a CTEK MXS 4.0. Is there any special treatment required? I've read never run the recondition program as desulphation phase is a no no.
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Post by binny on Oct 5, 2017 19:32:58 GMT 10
The instructions with my ssb lithium specifically said to use a normal charger and not a lithium specific one. Something to do with it being prismatic cells.
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Post by vtrstormer on Oct 6, 2017 19:23:03 GMT 10
+1 on the above....
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