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Post by razz0r on Dec 30, 2013 23:39:33 GMT 10
I just got back from a ride trip with the Storm to Tallangatta. On the way back I had to throw my partner on the back as she got a nail in her rear tire at Beachworth, and go two up on the storm back to Melbourne. (plugged that rear tire and got it back today) What I noticed was... on the way up to Tallangatta I was getting about 9 ~ nearly 10lt per 100km  On the Saturday we went on a Tallangatta local fang run where I was really using the top end of the rev range and even pulled a surprised 270+ run. I was getting closer to 7~8lt per 100km... from fanging it harder? When I had to throw the woman on the back with her back pak and take some weight out of that and put it in the tank bag, keeping the storm at about 4.5k ~ 5,000rpm we got down to 6lt per 100km!! WTF??  On the way up there with just me and the tank bag and sitting in 6th or mostly having the revs about 3 ~ 4,000rpm it chewed the freaking fuel! Fang the bitch and load her up and get a heap better fuel usage..... Why??? She has a BMC filter, unsure if its jetted but I would guess it is as it also has Staintune low rise pipes on her. Can anyone say why this is the case? BTW - woman hated being on the back of the storm, pegs really high and nothing to hold on to and well.. it didn't struggle as such carrying us but it sure wasn't taking off very fast lol but thats two people @ about 180kg plus full leathers + weekend baggage for two. |
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Post by kenmoore on Dec 31, 2013 5:27:37 GMT 10
That's weird!
Mine is jetted and it uses heaps more fuel when I get Up it!
Worst I have done one mad weekend was 137 Klms and Brrr out of fuel.
Could only manage 16.72 litres to full.
That's when I realised that there is no point worrying about fuel economy with the Storm, and that the tank design is shithouse.
It never seams to give the same range per litre consistently.
All I care about now is that it runs O.K
There are so many variables with our big carbies it will do your head in trying to figure out why?
Maybe do a quick check and make sure all lines etc are hooked up correctly just as a precaution.
Best of to ride and enjoy!
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Post by sjscicluna on Dec 31, 2013 6:09:28 GMT 10
I have a spreadsheet I have been running fo the last 12 months that I can share
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Post by erno on Dec 31, 2013 7:11:43 GMT 10
Pity should of given us a yell beechworth only 40min from me,could of helped out. If your up this way next time send us a message ,would be happy to show you our roads  |
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Post by mcmongrel on Dec 31, 2013 7:37:54 GMT 10
Hi all......Good to see you are all home safely Chris, and obviously had some fun. I plan to head from Mornington to Wagga Wagga early on Friday morning, to catch up with a few old mates. I'll keep a log of my trip up and back and let you all know how my bike performs, with regard to economy. This will be my first long trip since I bought my "storm" and I'm keen to see the results myself...........Staintunes ,no baffles, Dynojet kit, air filter, other wise standard, running BP ultimate 98 octane.
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Post by kenmoore on Dec 31, 2013 7:48:46 GMT 10
I have found that my bike performs better with 95 and that I seem to get better range.
Also the bike feels stronger with the baffles in.
Under normal conditions on a trip I can get around 230K before I get nervouse and the red bar is flashing and when I fill up it usually takes around 14 Litres.
It's never consistent, and then again I am never riding for economy, more for fun depending on the road and the mood I'm in.
At the moment with double demerits I am probably going to get the best economy ever when I ride tomorrow.
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Post by razz0r on Dec 31, 2013 9:29:46 GMT 10
Hi All, Ah - dont get me wrong - I dont care about how thirsty it is... what got me was while cruising it ate it but when I fanged it or loaded it up .. is used less LOL!! I was wondering if anyone else got this. Logic says that I am using way more throttle when fanging it and its under way more load with me and my woman on there. But then - I also go off road in a big ol Range rover that has a 4.6lt V8 in her. Unless I am towing another Rangie with it, there is too much motor and she can eat fuel when its not loaded up for camping and such. Starter to wonder if thats what I am seeing here with the storm - too much motor for just me to cruise on and its not "working" till I get her up in the 8,000rpm + range or its loaded up. Erno, Thank you mate!! We were staying at the Tallangatta hotel as a mate of mine in the Hayabusa club owns it... and its busa roads out there big time!! The Storm did very well for it self! Next time I am heading out that way or anyway again I'll be sure to post it up. The guy at Tallangatta tho didn't have a plug kit to help out. Hence why I had to go two up back and then drive back up there yesterday, plug it and ride back. But I could only get about 30mins out of it before I had to pull over and pump it back up! Kept loosing about 12psi every 20mins. Kenmore - when you "cruise" what rpm's and gear do you sit at? I was sitting mainly at 3,000rpm to about 4,000rpm.... McMongrel - Enjoy it mate!! Coming home on the Midland HWY I was pinned on the womans hoysung at 150 pretty much all the way. (Its still setup for learners - needs to be de-restricted!) Only one Camera and one fully marked that flashed some lights, waved a finger and that was it |
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Post by razz0r on Dec 31, 2013 9:36:26 GMT 10
That's weird! It never seams to give the same range per litre consistently. All I care about now is that it runs O.K There are so many variables with our big carbies it will do your head in trying to figure out why? Maybe do a quick check and make sure all lines etc are hooked up correctly just as a precaution. Best of to ride and enjoy! Yeah I am pretty much of the same train of thought. But it was weird and I couldn't figure out why.. like doe the idle jet get cut out after set RPM's or something. I just like to know things  But other wise... I tell ya - I asked ALOT of my storm this past weekend. Hell I was chasing my mate on his Gen 2 Busa around the Tallangatta roads to the point that I got my knee slider down on a awesome left hander!!! Pull a 270 ~ 280km straight run that surprised me!(I shut it down at that speed - the thing wanted more!!) then I had to ask the poor thing to take me and my woman and all the gear 350+ km back to Melbourne,. For a 14 year old bike... damn it did well!! And for my first Honda... mmm, I might have to look at some more Honda bikes... I have come to actually really like the breaks as well... and I am a Suzuki boy!!! |
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Post by kenmoore on Dec 31, 2013 12:21:04 GMT 10
I usually sit on 4500 revs with 16/41 standard gearing and that equates to roughly 130KPH.
Yes I know this is asking for it but so far I have been lucky!!!!
I never really go over 7000 R.P.M except at track days or when chasing my idiot mates, or as the case may be getting away from them.
Like I said it's weird but my bike has a lot of mods to the engine that would make it behave different to yours.
I like to use the torque of the engine and don't see the point in reving it hard.(Except to hear the exhaust noise which is almost addictive)
V-Twins are all about that magical torque curve, and they take a bit of time to get used to.
I'm sure there have been times when you have been surprised at how fast you are going and at how unfussed the bike feels, part of the Storm illusion and the one that gives my mates that I have let ride it the shits.
it's almost too easy for some reason, and the more I do to it the easier it gets.
Compared to other V-Twins I have owned this one is lazy and very deceptive!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by mcmongrel on Dec 31, 2013 13:53:02 GMT 10
Kenmoore, your earlier post has given me an idea........I'm gonna run 98 octane on the way up to Wagga...... take the baffles with me and install them, and run 95 octane on the way home. I generally cruise around 4000rpm, close to 120kph, so I'll try to stay reasonably constant both ways, and it will be interesting to see the results.........I'm sure I read on the Staintune web site, that in their opinion, baffles in, or out, made very little difference to their exhaust systems, and I reckon that would certainly be the case at cruising speeds. If nothing else, you have given me something to do, and think about, during an otherwise boring run up the Hume Hwy.......cheers, and Happy New Year to everyone.
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Post by kenmoore on Dec 31, 2013 15:36:56 GMT 10
My TRX 850 with Stainies ran better with the baffles in and it had a K&N, Dynojet kit and some head work.
Try what you said I would be interested in the results.
Like you said Happy New Year to all, have a good one.
also sjscicluna, can you post the spread sheet please!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by razz0r on Dec 31, 2013 15:54:38 GMT 10
Like I said it's weird but my bike has a lot of mods to the engine that would make it behave different to yours. I like to use the torque of the engine and don't see the point in reving it hard.(Except to hear the exhaust noise which is almost addictive) V-Twins are all about that magical torque curve, and they take a bit of time to get used to. I'm sure there have been times when you have been surprised at how fast you are going and at how unfussed the bike feels, part of the Storm illusion and the one that gives my mates that I have let ride it the shits. it's almost too easy for some reason, and the more I do to it the easier it gets. Compared to other V-Twins I have owned this one is lazy and very deceptive!!!!!!!!!! Yeah I have had that - but for the twistys that day I decided to use the upper end instead as there is less compression for coming hot and hard in to corners. I am talking entering 30km posted corners at 130 lol |
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Post by razz0r on Dec 31, 2013 15:55:41 GMT 10
oh yes! Happy New year to all!!
Be safe!
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Post by vtrstormer on May 20, 2014 6:52:10 GMT 10
Kenmoore, your earlier post has given me an idea........I'm gonna run 98 octane on the way up to Wagga...... take the baffles with me and install them, and run 95 octane on the way home. I generally cruise around 4000rpm, close to 120kph, so I'll try to stay reasonably constant both ways, and it will be interesting to see the results.........I'm sure I read on the Staintune web site, that in their opinion, baffles in, or out, made very little difference to their exhaust systems, and I reckon that would certainly be the case at cruising speeds. If nothing else, you have given me something to do, and think about, during an otherwise boring run up the Hume Hwy.......cheers, and Happy New Year to everyone. Did you get a chance to take any results from your little experiment? What did find out? |
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Post by mcmongrel on Jun 23, 2014 16:05:41 GMT 10
Yeah mate, I did as a matter of fact, and never got around to posting the result......."bugger all difference".... I got .2 of a km. ( 200 metres) per litre, better mileage on BP Ultimate 98 octane, with the spuds out, than on 95 octane, with the spuds in.........no difference to speak of.....so I now run 95 all the time. Still got the spuds out though, for that sweet, sweet sound.....!!!
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Post by vtrstormer on Jun 23, 2014 19:13:04 GMT 10
Yes it's all about that sound..... Even if wrongly got 100 per tank!
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Post by kenmoore on Jun 23, 2014 19:56:59 GMT 10
I find that my bike runs better with the baffles in, bit I have drilled them and they almost straight through.
I have given up on fuel economy and have now run out twice pushing the envelope.
Both times I have been able to coast into a servo to only get 14 odd litres into a 19 litre tank.
The tank is shit design.
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Post by sjscicluna on Jun 24, 2014 11:54:47 GMT 10
its like we need to modify the tank maybe beat the bottom out to make it more usable??
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